Poster | Message |
---|---|
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/14/2021 16:51 E: 04/14/2021 17:07 | Why is being anti Christian not a hate crime, but being Anti Semetic is... A religion is a religion... Don't get me wrong.. I hate all organized religions.. And I don't think hating on someone for their beliefs is OK... But why can I be anti Christian, but not anti Jewish? Because of Hitler and Mengele? Because Jewish folks have been more disparged than christians? |
EmotionallyDisturbedParakeetSuper Regular FatGuy With A LittleGun P: 04/14/2021 17:20 | Is having anti-semitic beliefs a hate crime? I don't believe it is. If you'd like to entertain a conspiratorial POV, it's because Jews control the United States and have created a culture where it's not okay to hate Jews but is okay to hate Christians. |
Prelude to AgonySuper Regular Sniper Harassment Duty P: 04/14/2021 17:23 | kyree wrote: Why is being anti Christian not a hate crime, but being Anti Semetic is... A religion is a religion... Don't get me wrong.. I hate all organized religions.. And I don't think hating on someone for their beliefs is OK... But why can I be anti Christian, but not anti Jewish? Because of Hitler and Mengele? Because Jewish folks have been more disparged than christians? I think it's because they equate certain religions with race. |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/14/2021 17:26 | EmotionallyDisturbedParakeet wrote: Is having anti-semitic beliefs a hate crime? I don't believe it is. I Believe it is in some spots.. I may be wrong If you'd like to entertain a conspiratorial POV, it's because Jews control the United States and have created a culture where it's not okay to hate Jews but is okay to hate Christians. On this we'll agree to disagree Sir |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/14/2021 17:27 E: 04/14/2021 17:28 | Prelude to Agony wrote: kyree wrote: Why is being anti Christian not a hate crime, but being Anti Semetic is... A religion is a religion... Don't get me wrong.. I hate all organized religions.. And I don't think hating on someone for their beliefs is OK... But why can I be anti Christian, but not anti Jewish? Because of Hitler and Mengele? Because Jewish folks have been more disparged than christians? I think it's because they equate certain religions with race. I just had a friend explain this to me... Jewish isn't just a belief, it's a race </quote> |
Prelude to AgonySuper Regular Sniper Harassment Duty P: 04/14/2021 17:46 | Yeah. I was more referring to Muslim or Islamic folks, but that's true. My Jewish friends aren't Jews, they married into it and adopted the religion. |
Ignorant_FloristDaycare Manager Pipebomb Monkey P: 04/14/2021 17:54 | kyree wrote: Prelude to Agony wrote: kyree wrote: Why is being anti Christian not a hate crime, but being Anti Semetic is... A religion is a religion... Don't get me wrong.. I hate all organized religions.. And I don't think hating on someone for their beliefs is OK... But why can I be anti Christian, but not anti Jewish? Because of Hitler and Mengele? Because Jewish folks have been more disparged than christians? I think it's because they equate certain religions with race. I just had a friend explain this to me... Jewish isn't just a belief, it's a race </quote> Wait.... Mike.... you have a friend? Like.... for real? ????? |
JiK MAZZSuper Regular WMD Creator P: 04/14/2021 18:05 | The premise is wrong. Being against a religion or group of any kind is not a hate crime. A hate crime is a crime that was demonstrably motivated by hate. Therefore, if you beat up a Christian and the judge learns that you have a history of spouting anti Christian beliefs, you very likely could be charged with a hate crime. On the other hand if you beat up a minority guy and proved it was for a personal feud, you would not get charged with a hate crime. At least this is true when the judge is relatively impartial. |
Prelude to AgonySuper Regular Sniper Harassment Duty P: 04/14/2021 18:13 | The judge has nothing to do with charging someone. The Prosecutor will almost certainly throw a hate crime charge on your second example. How do I know? Because I've seen it happen. Does it mean the charge will stick? Guess that's up to the jury... It's hard to find circumstances where someone beats up a Christian, and being anti-christian, being charged with a hate crime. Dude in Louisiana was charged with a Federal hate crime for burning 3 churches there. They were black churches, but the charge was based on religion, not race. Nergal was charged with Blasphemy in Poland. |
moose poopSuper Regular Body Splatter P: 04/14/2021 18:36 | could it be that traditionally christians have been in power in this nation; vis a vis you could look at the USSR or Russia, I'm you can find hate crime against christian and maybe ancient rome |
sp0tSuper Regular Assault Cannon Lover P: 04/14/2021 18:40 | Christianity is a religion. Semitic regards people who speak certain languages and are from certain parts of the world |
moose poopSuper Regular Body Splatter P: 04/14/2021 18:42 | stfu Semite, no one understands what you are saying |
Prelude to AgonySuper Regular Sniper Harassment Duty P: 04/14/2021 18:45 | That shouldn't matter. Hate is hate and should be treated as such, or not a factor at all. The idea that, well, since X has been in power traditionally, they can't be a victim of hate, is silly to me. |
moose poopSuper Regular Body Splatter P: 04/14/2021 18:48 | maybe I wasn't clear. My point is that hate crimes are much more prevalent in regard to minorities, whether they are racial, religious or otherwise. Usually, hate crimes are not nearly as prevalent against the group in power. In the USA, that would be white christians. Not that it does not happen. And yes it is based on hate. |
sp0tSuper Regular Assault Cannon Lover P: 04/14/2021 18:51 | If I'm Jewish and burn down a Red Lobster, is that a hate crime? |
moose poopSuper Regular Body Splatter P: 04/14/2021 18:52 | No, you get a medal for that one. |
BackalleybuttloveSuper Regular Crack-Powered Capper P: 04/14/2021 18:54 | Hate crimes are a political cudgel. |
Ignorant_FloristDaycare Manager Pipebomb Monkey P: 04/14/2021 19:37 | sp0t wrote: If I'm Jewish and burn down a Red Lobster, is that a hate crime? Fuckin' A right it is! Anyone that burns down a Red Lobster is removing a source of those wonderful Cheddar Bay Busquets and that's a hate crime against humanity! |
JiK MAZZSuper Regular WMD Creator P: 04/14/2021 19:49 | Prelude to Agony wrote: The judge has nothing to do with charging someone. The Prosecutor will almost certainly throw a hate crime charge on your second example. How do I know? Because I've seen it happen. Does it mean the charge will stick? Guess that's up to the jury... 100%. I meant convicted/jury not charged/judge. I (hastily) wrote my post between meetings at work and didn’t check it over. |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 00:00 E: 04/15/2021 00:11 | sp0t wrote: If I'm Jewish and burn down a Red Lobster, is that a hate crime? Who the fuck in their right minds eats frozen seafood... Thank you for your service.. Burn those bitches to the ground I think the word I'm looking for is "raze" https://youtu.be/0Y0TYD3i64E |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 00:05 E: 04/15/2021 00:31 | Backalleybuttlove wrote: Hate crimes are a political cudgel. I had to Google cudgel... Nice! If it wasn't for women and children I'd say burn this mfer to the ground https://youtu.be/0Y0TYD3i64E "you bring the matches, and I'll bring the gasoline" Or a Marty Friedman classic Set the world afire https://youtu.be/n--qRtxkouc |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 01:32 | Ignorant_Florist wrote: sp0t wrote: If I'm Jewish and burn down a Red Lobster, is that a hate crime? Fuckin' A right it is! Anyone that burns down a Red Lobster is removing a source of those wonderful Cheddar Bay Busquets and that's a hate crime against humanity! And frozen seafood... Foh |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 01:36 E: 04/15/2021 02:06 | I really don't get it... I mean I cN be Satanic, but I can't be anti Jewish... I'm not trying to split hairs... But fuuuck I can be the absolute opposing shit of Christianity, but I can't be anti Jewish? Why these mfers gotta play hard, but half these mothers can't spell hard |
Ignorant_FloristDaycare Manager Pipebomb Monkey P: 04/15/2021 01:43 | kyree wrote: Ignorant_Florist wrote: sp0t wrote: If I'm Jewish and burn down a Red Lobster, is that a hate crime? Fuckin' A right it is! Anyone that burns down a Red Lobster is removing a source of those wonderful Cheddar Bay Busquets and that's a hate crime against humanity! And frozen seafood... Foh Nobody is forcing you to eat that frozen seafood(I don't).... but God damn.... you fuck with my Busquets, my crippled ass gonna fuck you up. |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 01:59 E: 04/15/2021 02:04 | Oh, and don't get me wrong.. I'm not anti Semetic... I just don't understand the difference.. A religion is a religion... Why does it hafta be about a race? |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 02:09 E: 04/15/2021 02:11 | Ignorant_Florist wrote: kyree wrote: Ignorant_Florist wrote: Fuckin' A right it is! Anyone that burns down a Red Lobster is removing a source of those wonderful Cheddar Bay Busquets and that's a hate crime against humanity! And frozen seafood... Foh Nobody is forcing you to eat that frozen seafood(I don't).... but God damn.... you fuck with my Busquets, my crippled ass gonna fuck you up. HahahHH Heard! |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 02:17 | You are all children of a worthless God! |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 02:22 | All gods are man made and are garbage, |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 02:27 E: 04/15/2021 02:27 | kyree wrote: You are all children of a worthless God! Burn all those churches! To the ground... Raze this mfer |
kyreeSuper Regular Present Dropper P: 04/15/2021 02:44 E: 04/15/2021 14:30 | Ignorant_Florist wrote: kyree wrote: Prelude to Agony wrote: I think it's because they equate certain religions with race. I just had a friend explain this to me... Jewish isn't just a belief, it's a race Wait.... Mike.... you have a friend? Like.... for real? ?????</quote> Yeah like 2 people... Foh And they both call me on a regular ????? OH and guess who isn't getting a Christmas card from me next year... ?? |