straightcashhomie wrote:
Hi all,

Not sure what's going on, everything is delayed for some reason and not sure if it is my rates etc.

Years ago, I had absolutely zero issues now TFC is unplayable - which originally is the reason I quit playing but thought I'd give it a shot to try and diagnosis one last time.

All grenades are delayed, rockets, shotgun. When I die, I get that "lag" skip frame and next thing I know I'm randomly dead, laying on the ground. Feels like I am in a constant lag state with relatively loss/choke 0 or sometimes minor choke.

UP/DOWN - 400mb

scripts: bhop jump;wait, auto reload.
Rate: 10,000
cl_cmdrate: 101
cl_updaterate: 30

TFC set to Beta (off/on doesn't change it)

- New computer
- New fiber internet
- Moved, but in the same area (I know UPSET suffers some of the same issues might be a hop/server relay issue somewhere, as we live relatively close.)

Any help would be appreciated, at a loss.

Thanks in advance!

drippy- wrote:
Are you using wifi? You should be on a wired connection.

Also make sure your video mode is set to OpenGL and not software rendering.

Rates look good to me, and the server connection to your router looks solid.

Ignorant_Florist wrote:
Wait.... people still use wired connections to their router?

How quaintly 20th century....

straightcashhomie wrote:

Want to be wired for FPS, can get away without it with MMOs.

amnesia wrote:
Legacy or updated anniversary version?

XenOz3r0xT wrote:
Where did my original comment go? (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Ignorant_Florist wrote:

I thought we didn't have a choice in that? I was under the impression that Steam forced that on us, like rape in prison.....

straightcashhomie wrote:
Oh, I have it selected to Beta right now. Other option is 'none.' I've tried both. Doesn't seem to matter.

XenOz3r0xT wrote:
Where did my original comment go? (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Anyway lots of things can affect why one would have poor performance. Remember that this game is old enough to have gotten its bachelors degree, masters degree and half way done with its PhD (25 years old). So that would mean the game is going to perform best with a good CPU with good single core performance (I had so so performance with an AMD FX-9590 chip which had shit single core performance). With that in mind, having good RAM speeds (might as well have RAM for the max rated speed for your motherboard without needing to overclocking) is a plus. No need for large amounts of RAM for this game anyway. GPU I guess can be mediocre as I strongly believe this game is CPU biased and not as much GPU (I read this in an article where players who build PCs around certain games and build it around having a powerful CPU or powerful GPU based on how the game was designed). Putting your PC in high performance mode from the Power Options is also a good idea. Rare but check your ISP with a speed test from Ookla to determine if you are having issues with a server in NJ (Server is located in Edison, NJ). I think drippy posted something here a long time ago on how to check for packet loss and stutter and stuff. Some people here have actually had to yell at their ISPs from what I read in regards to how many hops they needed to connect to the server. Also if you are running an overclock on the CPU (or GPU), maybe dial it back or don’t overclock.

In game settings like what was mentioned are good advice but also enable your net graph in game so you can hone it in further. I believe the settings mentioned here what you need focus on. Below are the settings I mess with:
cl_updaterate "102"
cl_cmdrate "255"
rate "100000"
gl_vsync "0"
fps_override "1"
fps_max "250"
ex_interp "0"
cl_mousegrab "0"
m_customaccel "0"
m_customaccel_exponent "0"
m_customaccel_max "0"
m_customaccel_scale "0"
m_mousethread_sleep "1"
m_filter "0"
m_rawinput "1"
r_drawviewmodel "0"
default_fov "110"
con_color "255 255 255"
hud_centerid "1"

I based cl_updaterate and rate from literature online. cl_cmdrate from my research is supposed to be 5 FPS higher than what you are running with. gl_vsync is the same command you would check off in the menus. Also do not forget about setting your FPS and unlocking it with the fps_override and fps_max commands.

I know internet speed matters but 400/ 400 should be decent if you live near Upset (he averages 40 ms). I never heard of him having issues/ have not seen him perform less due to it. You said new PC so assuming you bought it off the shelf, get rid of the bloatware and make sure nothing is running in the background taking up resources. Legacy is the way to go I am told a few players can go back and forth and not suffer hits to performance.

Now fix your shit so I can see you 1v1 pepperjack because I am bored.

EDIT- Forgot to mention but activate and look at your net graph in game. You want all the lines to converge so whatever settings you use, make sure everything is stable. You do not want it to resemble a heart beat montior.

Ignorant_Florist wrote:
Wait.... people still use wired connections to their router?

How quaintly 20th century....

Ignorant_Florist wrote:
Wait.... people still use wired connections to their router?

How quaintly 20th century....

Ignorant_Florist wrote:

On "modern" games, maybe.... but I've not had a problem using wireless for over a decade now. As old as my PC is, I don't think it even has connection for wired connector, and if it does, I have no clue where it would even be.

With TFC, even a shitty wireless connection should work fine. I'm not only not in the same room as our router, I'm not even on the same floor as our router, and get zero lag, packet drop, etc... and I can be on the server, streaming live, while my wife and son are both either streaming or gaming at the same time (or, in my wife's case, streaming AND gaming at the same time)........

Maybe Comcast/Xfinity IS worth what we're paying for it....

[IOD]Snips wrote:
Does the laggy gameplay happen on other TFC servers? Does the laggy gameplay occur in completely different computer games too? Do you get laggy gameplay if you start your own TFC server for a brief test? Like are rockets delayed when your ping is 0 when you make your own game? It's good that you have your own baseline of expectations too as you said years ago you had absolutely zero issues, so you know what you're looking for. You could also try creating a video to put onto youtube to show the issue too. This might help separate the input or display lag, as a video can't capture that. Be sure to have your net_graph shown so we can see the fps to rule that out too if you go that route.

The two biggest things that sticks out is you said you're on fiber internet which should give you the lowest ping & best online gaming experience. The other is you said New Computer. Was your old computer super responsive in tfc, and your new computer (assuming newer technology everywhere) has massive delays & constant laggy feel? Might be operating system or in-game settings causing this rather than an internet connection or location issue.